Tommy Quick – Episode transcription
Here is the transcription of the chat I had with Tommy.
Episode 16: Tommy Quick : Turning Setbacks Into Comebacks – Cycling 9000km+ on the 4 Points Australia Ride
Bella: Hello, I’m your host Bella Molloy, and I’m excited to introduce my guest for today’s Seek Travel Ride podcast. Tommy Quick, in 2006, Tommy woke up in his sleep with what felt like a raging headache. Minutes later he would be unconscious. He’d suffered a stroke, but Tommy was just 12 years old. Fast forward to today, and Tommy is currently midway through a monumental ride called Four Points Australia, where he is fundraising to raise awareness for social inclusion and young stroke. Tommy, welcome to the show.
Tommy Quick: Hi Bella. How are you?
Bella: I’m doing really well and I am super, super excited to be speaking with you today, Tommy. I think not just myself, but our listeners are gonna draw a lot of inspiration from your story.
Tommy Quick: I’m looking forward to it.
Bella: Tommy. What I like to do with all my guests is open with the same question and that is, Can you remember the very first bike you ever rode?
Tommy Quick: That was when I was like younger than six. I reckon I would’ve been like four. I remember green. I got another bike when I was on my training wheels, but I can’t remember what colour that was.
Bella: So remember like what it felt like going on those first bike rides.
Tommy Quick: I Remember being like scared about taking the training wheels off. That was so scary. Like,
Bella: But then that realisation when you actually. Don’t fall over too and you can keep going.
That’s pretty cool, isn’t it?
Tommy Quick: Yeah. Like freedom. I love it.
Bella: And I think for a select few of us, we keep that sensation with us and that’s what drives us when we keep riding bikes as adults as well.
Tommy Quick: Yeah.
Bella: Tommy , a big part of you and your story comes in at quite a young age, and I mentioned there in the introduction that the age of 12, you woke up. Feeling sick, a really bad headache and suffered a stroke for a lot of people. Hearing that somebody at that young and age suffered a stroke would be, uh, what? I didn’t realize stroke could happen to people of that age. Can you go into what it was like for you? Like, so
Tommy Quick: I woke up, I went into my parents’ bedroom after. About five minutes of rain there, just thinking my head’s getting sore and sore, and then from there it just escalated. My mom went and got me some disprin or asprin, one or two, it escalated so rapidly, five minutes. I was unconscious. And woke up five weeks, two days later, in an induced coma because the amount of swelling on my brain was pretty dramatic.
They said that they had to remove about the size of a golfball out of my brain. It was pretty full on.
Bella: You spent five weeks in an induced coma in hospital. I’m imagining like your last memory was a raging headache and five weeks later you’re in hospital. You wouldn’t have any comprehension of the time that’s passed between that headache to waking up and then hearing the news of what’s happened.
I can only imagine as a 12 year old that’s really confusing for you and unsettling as well.
Tommy Quick: So when I woke up, I tried to speak, no words came out. I tried to move. Literally couldn’t move. Tried to like move my legs, couldn’t move, tried to lift my head up, couldn’t even do that and like so that they turned pretty much an instantaneous panic attack.
Couldn’t take a word word, but I’m pretty sure my parents rushed in. The nurses rushed in. They like calmed me down and like it took a long time. Essentially it took several years to even comprehend what had happened. To understand what had happened. Everything takes time
Bella: and not just comprehending what happened, but retraining your body to be able to speak, to be able to stand up, to be able to walk. I imagine that rehab was really extensive and intensive.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, I’m certainly more focused on my training, on my rehab, but back then, because I couldn’t understand what happened, I was very negative and then because of that I was very not willing to, uh, make the most outta myself cause I just didn’t understand.
There’s one time that really sticks out to me was so I was. Walking in the corridor, I had a physio either side of me and I must have fallen or like tripped and the physio caught me, but I just like literally went to a dead weight and just sat down like and refused to do anything because like my, again, it just comes back to that understanding and why it happened to me essentially.
Bella: So Tommy, how long a period of time did it take from waking up not being able to move, not being able to speak. To finally being able to talk and to walk as well.
Tommy Quick: Well, do you follow the footy at all?
Bella: Oh yeah. And actually for our listeners who, dunno what footy is. Footy is a, an Australian term for football. But I’m thinking Tommy, are you talking about Aussie rules Football or rugby league or rugby Union?
Tommy Quick: Australian rules football.
Bella: So the AFL.
Tommy Quick: So Aaron Davey and Daniel Wells came in and. Saw me in the hospital when I was eight weeks post surgery. And so very early on I couldn’t speak, but I was really excited.
I was like any 12 year old, meeting a national player. And so, after that encounter I spent three days trying to tell my parents that I wanted to watch all the Melbourne Grand Finals again. Yeah. So from that, because my, my parents couldn’t comprehend because I was giving gestures, I was pointing at the T.V., I was like drew a DVD and from the, um, frustration, my first word that I learned to say was no cause like, I kept saying, no, not that. No, not that, and that that’s how I became to say things and. Very slurred speech and stuff and like apparently my speech had been the most affected part of my brain.
Bella: It’s really hard for me to put myself in those shoes of just all of a sudden it’s almost like you’re locked in. You, you can’t get the message out that you’re trying. And it, I imagine it would be frustrating.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, it’s, I can’t even remember. Not being able to speak that long ago, and when you don’t have something, you really come to terms, realising just how important it was.
Bella: So speaking’s one thing, but then obviously movement as well. Like, you know, you woke up, you couldn’t, you know, raise your arm, you couldn’t move.
You’re obviously moving now from that period of hopelessness, falling on the floor with the physio down the corridor. Being able to get around and walk. Imagine that was a long process as well.
Tommy Quick: Ah, yeah. Probably the first thing that gave me any motivation was like was sport to honest. Year seven, I went back to school.
And, and like after class, we decided to play table tennis and I fell in love with that. Like it was really my main source of motivation to want to get somewhere with life, essentially, like wanting to walk again, because I needed prompts, I needed things to do. I went down and like that was, uh, the main driver.
Bella: Yeah, I can imagine. And something that you’re motivated to do and that you enjoy doing and look forward to doing. I could imagine that all of a sudden you’ve become, you’ve, you’ve transformed from feeling hopeless about your situation to having that goal and being goal driven and motivated to participate in life.
Tommy Quick: Yeah.
Bella: I looked through when I was reading a lot about your backstory there, Tommy, and you are participating in life and you’ve taken on a lot of things that, that would floor a lot of fully able people, regardless of whether they’ve suffered any sort of health effects at all. In fact, something that I saw that you’d completed was the Kokoda Track, and for those of my listeners who’ve never heard of the Kokoda Track, it’s in Papua New Guinea in the Pacific.
It was an area of, well, I guess horrific scenes during World War II for soldiers in that area, and it is, deemed, as, you know, one of the hardest hiking trails out there. I think, I’d be fair to say; but Tommy come from this background of, of not being able to move, lying frozen, not being able to communicate even in, in a hospital bed at such a young age. But then years later, the Kokoda track is something that started motivating you.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, it was like I had to do it. It’s not a race, it’s just getting the job done. So I did it over 12 days. I went with my dad, my uncle, his first mate in one group, and we were, we went four days ahead of another group and they were actually the people who got me interested in wanting to do it and yeah, it was a really good experience. I was walking eight to 12 hours a day. Literally up or down. It was pretty fun. So it’s 80kms on the flat, but if you count the mountains and stuff, it’s 96 ks.
Bella: An extra 16kms of vertical, up and down, and really steep terrain like, like the conditions there that I’ve not done it, but I’ve heard about it. I know people who’ve done it, and I’ve seen footage. Of this track and like looks like jungle scenes, almost like, you know, really slippery and muddy and steep.
Tommy Quick: That’s in the good days of today. Think about veteran,
Bella: the soldiers. Yeah.
Tommy Quick: Who had to go through that day in day out. I remember one thing in particular, so I got a porter, my dad got a porter. So you can get porters and that they were incredible, but I needed both of them to, um, have a person in the side of me to them with stability. And there’s a lot of hype around the other porters, and now they we’re talking openly about me facing at the wall. So the wall, it is literally a wall where it’s the steepest part of the climb. It’s like literally vertical and you’ve gotta go like zigzags up. You’ve got tree roots and it’s like a sheer face. And they talking about it like from day one and I was like, I’m gonna do this. You could see, not see the top, but you could guess how far up you to go, which was like probably 200 meters at most of this sheer face.
And I actually smashed it like. Absolutely. I run a muck with it. I was so proud of myself. I felt so accomplished. It didn’t really set in until about, like an hour later. And then when we got to Brigade Hill, um, I had to cry as everyone does and like, but the porters were amazed to see that I’d done the wall, but it was a whole experience just
Bella: I could imagine like the sense of achievement you had after, you know, being able to, like you said, not just complete it, but absolutely crush that really difficult terrain that would be troublesome for many. Trying to complete the Kokoda track and, and you are there just showing how much ability you, you have. I think that’s fantastic and, and really driving the point home that you motivated for a goal if you stick to it and, and have that sense of drive towards it, seeing what you can achieve and what’s possible. I think that’s fantastic.
I guess Tommy, then it’s a good opportunity to talk about the Four Points Australia Ride. Can you introduce that ride to our listeners and and give them a few details about what it exactly entails and what it is.
Tommy Quick: So the Four Points was first created over a simple cup of coffee. It was a crazy idea that to do. So what it originally was riding all the way to four most extreme points on mainland Australia. So it was all in all nine thousand KMs starting the western most point, steep point, the western, most point ton he continent. And then traveling down to the Nullabor, and if you dunno what the Nullarbor is
Bella: a long stretch, isn’t it!?
Tommy Quick: 1,500 Kms of absolute wind and nothing apart from roadhouse and trucks!
Bella: A lot of open space and a lot of wind. I wonder whether you had headwind or tailwind on that stretch or all wind side wind.
Tommy Quick: Mostly it was cross wind.
Bella: Yeah. I think for our listeners who don’t know about the Nullarbor and the Nullarbor Plain in Australia, it’s right. It, it traverses Australia, west to east. It’s a very, very long stretch, but also quite a remote part of Australia as well.
So not only is it challenging from a location point of view and, and you know the winds as well from a riding and physical challenge point of view, but it also takes quite a lot of preparation and planning because of the isolation. And what I mean by that is it’s vast distances between services. Those services are normally provided at what we call roadhouses or road stations.
Because it is one of the main trucking route for transportation of Cargo across Australia as well. So we have these amazing big roadhouses road stations, which which are designed for long distance travellers. But when you’re traveling on human powered bikes or a trike in your example here, Tommy, those distances provide an incredible challenge to cycle.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, certainly not easy. Longest day was 117 Kms. That took like six and a half hours, but I did have a tailwind on that day. So
Bella: You’ve gotta have a tailwind at some stage during this ride. Keep talking our listeners through, we’ve talked about the western point. You’re traveling across the Nullabor. What’s the rest of your route
Tommy Quick: Down, down outside of, down to Wilson’s Prom, then going up to Cape Byron, Byron Bay, and then, um, heading up, up to Cape York.
Bella: Cape York Peninsula. So you’ve, you, you’re tackling the Western Point. What’s the Western point called again?
Tommy Quick: Steep point.
Bella: So steep point to Wilson’s Promontory Tree, which is the most southern point there on the mainland. And then Cape Byron, uh, around Byron Bay, which is the most eastern point of Australia. And then Cape York on the Cape York Peninsula at the very far northern point, so that north, south, east and west. Wow. And you, mentioned there, Tommy, over 9,000kmss.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, it will be. Originally it was about 8,800, but now it’ll be, yeah, it’ll be over like with Covid. With Covid was a whole deal. Like we started, had to start on the SA/WA border. Then we rode down through to Lucky Bay or Cow, South Australian. Then when we shot back home. Through, um, change states ,because we had to get a visa to pass into W.A.
From there we went up to State Point. We essentially joined the dots, but it was a whole ordeal, like I can’t. Literally it expanded three and a half months to five months.
Bella: I imagine the list logistics actually for this whole ride has been a, a constant challenge and you know, you’re probably constantly having to, to change on the route as you go along as well for various reasons. But yeah, the Covid restrictions in Australia, cos they changed from state to state as well. So being able to navigate your way through all of those to being able to, to, you know, to continue and, and travel on your ride, would’ve been an extra logistical nightmare to have to handle, for sure.
Tommy Quick: Tell me about it,
Bella: Tommy. What was it like when you actually set off on day one, having prepped for this ride, having to figure out all of this stuff? What was it like actually just. Doing the ride in itself?
Tommy Quick: Well, due to Covid, it was good to be able to do something. Cause like we just got out Victoria in time before the lockdown started and that lockdown was brutal for, um, those who were back in Melbourne, so it was good to be out there riding, but it, it sucked to be riding by myself, like my dad joined in a couple of days here and then, but he was normally doing his role, he was doing the driver and navigator. Whatever was needed to be done.
It was a good feeling to start. Yeah, like the middle ground, like getting up, waking up. We weren’t early risers, so we’d start like nine. 10 o’clock. Cause either way I was gonna be running the heat of the day, might as well get some good sleep. And yeah, it was just like, it was like that repetitive cycle, getting up, doing all those necessary things, jump on the trike.
Repeating the process by myself. That was the brutal part. It was a little loss of solitude. Yeah, it’s gonna be brutal again. That’s where the mental toughness comes in.
Bella: Yeah, absolutely. And you know what, Tommy, if anyone’s had some good training and mental toughness going through what you did from that age of 12, you’ve had so many things which you’ve sort of put in the mental toughness bank. So many deposits made that you can start taking withdrawals on this ride. Some people love that solitude that they get when they’re riding on their own, but some people aren’t necessarily motivated at being on their own, on their bike. So I can imagine for yourself hours and hours, day after day of alone time, you probably go through the highers and low points there a few times no doubt.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, like I would try and listen to a podcast or listen to music or just kind of, I would take myself away from it. Or be present or think about things I needed to do on social media or like, or think about talks that I was gonna deliver and there was always something in my mind could churn over a lot of, because I ride slower.
I’m not gonna win any medals for races. I needed that companionship essentially because I didn’t have it. It was very hard. That was one of the reasons why I wanted to raise awareness for young stroke, but also to get joiners along the way so people actually coming out to promote inclusion.
Bella: And so promoting people to find you on your website, find you on the map, see where you’re riding, and join you for a few kms, a few hours or sections of the ride each day. I think that’s a great idea, Power, of, of your own little mini peloton encouraging you and, and joining you for that experience.
Tommy Quick: Wind shelters.
Bella: Wind shelters, ah, the true, uh, the true motivation comes out. Now you, you want a wheel to follow. That’s great. With the early part of the ride there, Tommy, and, and not withstanding those, those long days on your own, could you pick out just a highlight that you had on the ride that, you know, a moment where you just not stopped you in your tracks, but something that you reflect on now and just makes you smile?
Tommy Quick: Probably one that stands out to me, like instantaneously was second or third day and like I just made it in time to get to get into the next destination and the sun was setting. Yeah, it was just like the sunset was, it was incredible. That was a pretty good feeling like, and probably another hard one was like Steep Point.
So Steep Point, right? So you’ve got a drill turn, then go up two KMs, you’ve gotta turn off and you go then start heading towards Monkey Mia. Monkey Mia’s actually a National Park. Cause then you’ve gotta go through like three, like years lit a year to get out to State Point. From where Monkey Mia sits, it’s about 183 Ks out to State Point.
And you got to, you’ve got about 30 meters from the turn onto bitumen, then it’s gravel, so it’s 153 Ks, and then you’ve got about 110 Ks of gravel, and then you got deep sand, like literally deep sand. Now I managed to do like 15 Ks of that soft sand, but I couldn’t make my tires were like
Bella: Sinking in.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, we just, we packed up shop and started somehow made up for like, like 20, 30 Ks. But the accomplishment to get from there, to get on the, like if you check out like the real first one on my YouTube channel. Like, you actually literally see me going down and kissing the bitumen
Bella: Yeah, I could imagine that feeling. Like steep, soft sand to cycle through. Yeah, not ideal. Not ideal though. I could imagine you just joyous, like you would feel instantaneous speed hitting the asphalt and, and it’d be like a downhill, wouldn’t it? Like, it’s just like, feels so vastly different and effortless. I could only imagine.
Tommy Quick: Yeah.
Bella: Reaching that, like you said, the real first point, steep point, that first of the four points on your trip, that Western point there. Yeah. Wow. That’s a high. I think sadly, you’re able to recount a real low for this ride as well, and it would be something that quite horrific and unexpected because not withstanding the challenges you had just.
To get to this ride. Start the ride. And the barriers that you had to, to endure. But unfortunately, you were also during this ride, hit by a car, weren’t you?
Tommy Quick: Yeah. So it was the third day in the third segment was actually the day before November 16th. We. We’d had our first like joiner on the ride who come out for the day and chosen to ride with me and that, that was awesome. And then the next day was only a 22 K ride. 10 Ks were on the Stewart Highway. We were meant to have dinner at a friend’s restaurant and it was all lined up and yeah, like I was pretty stoked, pretty pumped up cause I was getting to Melbourne and. a guy just, all I heard was screeching the tires.
And then, um, he plowed into me and like five seconds before I turned the GoPro on so the GoPro you can hear all the audio of that.
Bella: Oh no.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, i’s pretty, pretty violent but my parents later on told me that he um, veered out on the dual highway. There tried to auto correct cause apparently his brakes locked and he just, yeah. ploughed into me and yeah, he was, um, I found out later he was unlicensed and drug affected.
Bella: Changes the course of not just your ride, but your life as well. Like all of a sudden you’ve spent so much of your life in rehabilitation, relearning how to speak again, relearning how to walk again, how to move independently. Again, you’re motivated and you’re on this charity ride to raise awareness for social isolation and young stroke, and then all of a sudden, the worst of the worst happens to you and you find yourself in hospital again.
I mean? What was that like there, Tommy?
Tommy Quick: Um, uh, well there were few factors and there definitely there’s been lows and highs I’m not, not gonna lie, but I, it was more mechanical this time. So like you’ve got neurological and you’ve got mechanical. I essentially smashed my Acetabulum my pelvis on my right side. I fractured my sacrum. I had a hairline fracture on my femur and surprisingly like don’t have, I had fractured the spinous process of the Thoracic 8, 9, 10.
They were fractured for some reason. But, they weren’t, weren’t that bad. There were two factors. Like one was like a day later, a day or two later, channel nine came in and saw me and they did a story about me. And, um, literally bad thinking. I said like, like Arnold Schwarzenneger, I was like, I’ll be back. And that, that, that was kind the motivation I needed to like, essentially get back to where I was and finish up the ride work and yeah.
But there’s definitely been some, some low, low points. Yeah. I’m planning an easy journey, but I, I walk so slow these days like, Before I had the car crash, I could run not very well, not very fast. I could run . Now, so to be honest, very unlikely to ever run again at this point. But you never know.
Bella: You are not willing to say, never say never. You still want to be motivated to see what’s possible because, I mean, Tommy, looking back on your life, you, I think, I think you certainly probably proved a lot of people wrong for certain things as well, but it was interesting what you said there at the start was it was a different type of recovery because it was physical, not necessarily neurological stuff that you had to recover there.
And imagine there would also be quite a lot of mental recovery involved in that too.
Tommy Quick: Yeah.
Bella: I don’t wanna put thoughts in your mind, but for me, I mean that’s such a traumatic incident. So this occurs halfway through a ride, you know, rehab aside, was there a point in your rehab where you just thought, I don’t want to do this anymore. I’m, I’m scared to do this?
Tommy Quick: I would say yes. But only fleeting moments, and not only because of particular reasons I want to move on with my life in some aspects, relationships, work, I don’t have, but like everyone feel like me, especially, everyone wants things instantaneously these days. Uh,
Bella: Frustrations of things not moving as quickly as you’d like them to be?
Tommy Quick: Yeah, I would say that I get frustrated more, definitely. I really like spending time with people I truly care about. I wanna spend time with my friends more saying that, like, I’m still person, but I’m, I’m, I’m very against labels and, because seeing myself in the chair has made me realise that people want to talk to you like a two year old, three year old, four year old, and you’ve done a bachelor of nutrition.
Bella: Yeah. You’re not stupid. It’s not like you’re not intelligent.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, exactly.
Bella: You’re an adult. Exactly. You’re an adult and a person that’s quite bright. I guess people are dismissive of you because of that initial perception.
Tommy Quick: Yeah.
Bella: I could imagine it would be hard. Did you ever think of quitting the ride?
Tommy Quick: Fleeting moments? Yeah.
Bella: Yeah, so the accident happened, was it November, 2021?
Tommy Quick: November 17th, 2021.
Bella: How long did it take before you could get back and restart the Four Points Australia ride?
Tommy Quick: So I did barely any training, but I joined in the Great Vic Bike Ride which is hosted by Bicycle Network, and I did the four days.
And that would be the reason why I chose to go Bicycle Network was safety reasons. Cause it’s very safe context. It’s like you’ve got over 2000 riders that block off practically most roads on the 26th of November and then. On the 4th of December, we rode from pretty much my, my house down to um, Wilson Promontry, which is about 280 Ks.
And. Yeah, that was, we had a few riders who joined in with us. We, we had a few, quite a few riders. We had at one stage five riders, which was awesome.
Bella: That would’ve been mega reaching that southern point.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, it was instantaneous pleasure. Like when I did Kokoda, it didn’t, it took me like two or three weeks to realise, yeah, I’d done it. Whereas this was instantaneous accomplishment. It was such a great feeling and that that’s really what kept me wanting to drive on and complete the ride like I wasn’t, I wasn’t certain at that stage. I didn’t know if I was capable. There was so many factors and like wanted to see if my heart was in it, and it was by the end of that.
Bella: There’s been a common theme here actually told me, not just with this ride, but just with all your struggles that you’ve had to work through, and it’s that that presence of being motivated and having a goal. And how, without the motivation or the goal, it can’t happen. And I can see just how, how this has been a driving force for you as well.
So I can see how it would’ve been important to you, post that horrific accident to in your mind, still believe and want to have this Four Points Australia thing as your goal. Because if you’re not motivated for your goal, it’s not gonna happen. So reaching Wilson’s Promontry Tree. Immediately feeling that sense of achievement instantaneously, as you said also then probably from what you were sharing, made you realise, yes, this is still my goal and I’m still motivated to go on with it. That’s awesome. I just, it, it’s really inspiring for me to hear that.
Tommy Quick: It’s actually really funny. Like you, and you said goals. Um, I did Year 12 P.E. and I was rated all the subjects except one, one subject. Do you reckon, you could guess which subject I didn’t like about P.E.?
Bella: Which one?
Tommy Quick: Setting goals like, you know.
Bella: Oh wow.
Tommy Quick: Yeah. So things come back to bite you on the bum, don’t they?
Bella: Yeah, exactly. But look, you’ve turned it around. I, I wouldn’t pick you as someone who doesn’t set goals and you’re achieving them too, Tommy. A lot of the motivation that you’ve got for this Four Points Australia Ride is actually highlighting to many people, just even that young stroke is a thing and, and talking about young stroke and social inclusion, and you’ve factored that into the way that you’ve set your ride out by doing talks along the way. Can you talk us through a little bit of that?
Tommy Quick: Yeah, yeah. I would pretty much talk to anyone who listen.
Um, I really like to talk in schools because I think schools are great because the information is retained much, much better. But also they can put perspective in reality. Young kids or teenagers going to things and like I probably met three kids over the past 20, 30 talks I’ve done to schools and stuff, and three kids have had relations who had suffered strokes or grandparents, all that stuff.
Bella: Tommy in terms of this, ride, we talked before, like you do invite people to join you if they can, and, and on your trip as well. So I will provide links to your website and your Instagram and actually you also have a YouTube channel, which I’ve seen, so I’ll provide links to them all for our listeners in our show notes so they can track, track your progress and for those of who are in Australia and able to maybe can actually find out when you might be riding close to them and join you on your ride as well.
Tommy Quick: Yeah, yeah.
Bella: I can tell you now , I’m here in France. I can’t join you on that ride, but I am sure as certain going to be looking at your website periodically and actually seeing where you’re up to. And um, I’ll be sending some virtual encouragement your way and constant tailwinds too.
Tommy Quick: Oh yeah.
Bella: Tommy, it’s been an absolute pleasure to talk with you and to learn about your story, and I’m so thankful that I’m able to share it with our listeners. Two quick questions that I like to ask all my guests to finish up the show.
The first one is, if you had a choice of writing on a constant climb or having to ride in a constant headwind, which one would you choose? Um,
Tommy Quick: Probably constant climb.
Bella: A constant climb, yeah. Yeah. You are not a fan of the winds either.
Tommy Quick: Well, like I would get the burn outta the constant climb, whereas like the wind you like, it just feels hard. You’re not making any progress and you’ve got no satisfaction whatsoever.
Bella: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it resonates with me. And the last one, I have a feeling I know the answer to this, but anyway, if you had the choice of spending four hours riding on your own or four hours riding with other people, which one would you choose?
Tommy Quick: Uh, think you can answer that for me if I,
Bella: I think, I think you want company. Yes,
Tommy Quick: exactly. I need it. I need it.
Bella: Well, Tommy, it has been so great to chat with you today. Thank you once again, and I wish you an onward journey with no constant climbs and no headwinds either. May many people join you along the way. Thank you for sharing your story with the Seek Travel Ride podcast.
Tommy Quick: Thank you very much and thank you for having me on Bella it’s been an absolute pleasure.
Bella: Thanks Tommy.